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BREAKING: While Dems Distracted by Inauguration, Virginia Senate GOP Stages a Coup

by: lowkell

Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 16:18:55 PM EST

You don't get more slimy, sneaky, underhanded, etc. than this (great work by Ben Tribbett alerting us to what was going on in the following series of Facebook updates):

"Wow- Republicans in the Virginia Senate are now trying to redraw the maps and draw at least one Democratic Senator out of the Senate. Happening right now on the floor."

"COUP GOING ON IN VIRGINIA SENATE: Republicans have just brought all new Senate districts to the floor with Henry Marsh gone in DC, now 30 minutes of debate before they send them to the House of Delegates."


"The Republican redistricting bill creates a 6th majority-minority seat."

After Ben's first Facebook notice, I went to the live feed of the Virginia State Senate and watched as Sen. Saslaw, Sen. McEachin ("This is sneaky, this is underhanded, and it's beneath the dignity of the Senate"), Sen. Marsden and Sen. Barker went ape**** on the Republicans for what they said was a totally underhanded, unconstitutional move that will utterly poison relations in the Virginia State Senate. The fact that Republicans pulled this underhanded maneuver while most people were focused on the inauguration and Democratic State Senator Marsh was out of town (for the inauguration) really says it all. Wow.

P.S. Bizarrely, right after the coup, Sen. Deeds inexplicably started rambling on about a Confederate general (Stonewell Jackson) and how he loved "peaches," "lemons," and "women." WTF?

P.P.S. I'm hoping to get video of this as soon as possible, as you've got to see it to believe it. Also, this should be a big, national story. Wow.

UPDATE: Sen. Ebbin tweets, "VA Senate GOP trying to redistrict w/ substitute bill with no notice in violation of our state Constitution" and "VA Senate GOP votes to redistrict in violation of state Constitution."

UPDATE #2: One of the sharpest Virginia political analysts I know, KentonNgo, tweets: "If VA Republicans were smart enough not to touch the already cleared VRA districts, the plan will likely stand. Dems are toast." Ugh.

UPDATE #3: Here are the votes as Senate Republicans rammed this one through on 20-19, party-line votes with longtime civil rights champion, Democratic State Senator Henry Marsh, at the inauguration in Washington, DC.

UPDATE #4 (5:10 pm): It will be interesting to see how long it takes the corporate media to get on top of this story. So far, I see the Richmond Times Dispatch has a story (posted at 4:37 pm), but that's about it. We were up with this story at 4:19 pm, after Ben Tribbett posted about it on Facebook and alerted us to it a few minutes before that. Actually, I just saw that Bob Lewis and Larry O'Dell of the AP are out with a story as of 4:57 pm. ThinkProgress is also on it as of 5:10 pm.

UPDATE #5: Not Larry Sabato has "some initial info on the new districts." ("Creigh Deeds, the current 25th Senator is put into the 24th Senate district with Emmett Hanger, a district that now includes all of Augusta,and Bath counties along with Charlottesville and other pieces.")

UPDATE #6: NLS has the new districts.

UPDATE #7: Chelyen Davis tweets, "@lgbillbolling spokeswoman says Bolling wouldn't have voted for redistricting, "has grave concerns... it's not something he supported." Verrry interesting, he can't be pleased about this (makes it more likely he'll run as an indy?).

UPDATE #8: Jeff Schapiro tweets, "Even @BobMcDonnell is steamed over surprise re-redist maneuver by fellow R's in #Va Senate; worried it threatens his agenda." Nice.

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An attack on American democracy in its very cradle (0.00 / 0)
If they're going to strip Virginians of our basic rights, then it's time to take to the f**king streets and take back our state.  

It's the future of what "democracy" would look like under Governo Cuccinelli.  And if Bob McDonnell accepts this, then his political career is deservedly over.  

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To let your governor know how you feel about this... (0.00 / 0)
...give him a piece of your mind at http://www.governor.virginia.g... and at (804) 786-2211.

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Minority-Majority Seat (0.00 / 0)
In 2011, when the Governor's nonbinding nonpartisan redistricting commission addressed redistricting, they found that an additional minority-majority district that complied with the VRA was possible in the House of Delegates, but not in the State Senate.

So the question here is if the new, minority-majority seat crated by the GOP is actually minority-majority, or smoke and mirrors.

It is possible that by touching the already cleared VRA districts, there's an opening for the Justice Department to block implementation of the new districts. Hope is not lost.

It is also possible that the new, minority-majority district is smoke and mirrors. Being a white-minority district but no clear majority for either African-Americans or Hispanics is not an actual minority-majority district under the VRA.

Sen. Herring: Virginia Senate GOP Move "Utterly Outrageous," "Cynical Political Gamesmanship at its Absolute Worst" (0.00 / 0)

Calls on Governor To Put Partisanship Aside and Condemn These Actions

Leesburg - Democratic candidate for Attorney General State Senator Mark Herring (Loudoun & Fairfax) issued the following statement today after Senate Republicans used parliamentary tactics to bring forward a plan to redraw Virginia's State Senate districts:
"What the Senate Republicans have done today is utterly outrageous and cynical political gamesmanship at its absolute worst.

"While Americans across the nation honored the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. and put partisanship aside to watch as our President was inaugurated, Republicans in the state Senate disgracefully planned a partisan takeover of the Chamber. These are exactly the types of partisan maneuvering that our citizens and constituents abhor. This is not the Virginia way of governing and their actions raise constitutional concerns.

"I call on the Governor to rise above the political fray and, in the interest of achieving real results on the issues Virginians truly care about, condemn these actions."

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Aneesh Chopra Calls on Gov. McDonnell to Reject "Underhanded Redistricting Maneuver" (4.00 / 1)
Aneesh Chopra's Statement on Senate Republicans' Underhanded Redistricting Maneuver
Chopra calls on Governor McDonnell to reject the actions of Senate Republicans  

Democratic candidate for Lt. Governor, Aneesh Chopra, made the following statement today in response to VA Senate Republicans' surprise maneuver on redistricting legislation:

"Today Virginia saw two very different visions for how our country and the Commonwealth move forward. President Obama spoke of what we can accomplish when we come together to work for a common purpose, while Republicans in the state Senate showed the citizens of Virginia that they care more about their party's prospects than they do about the good of everyday Virginians. Their actions today represent the worst in politics - the amount of trust that has been destroyed by this action is immeasurable and the damage that has been done to the institution of the Senate cannot be quantified. I am calling on Governor McDonnell to reject the actions of Senate Republicans. It is up to him to stand up to his own party and do the right thing."

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Excellent statement (0.00 / 0)
Frames the issue squarely and puts the burden on the state's top official to rise above the fray and show leadership...or be held accountable.

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Maybe it's not constitutional after all... (4.00 / 2)
The following is what I'm hearing:

First of all, there's no such thing as "technical adjustment" redistricting. It's either redistricting, which this would be, or it isn't, with actual people moved from one district to another. That means this move by Virginia's Senate Republicans raises fundamental constitutional issues.

Second, the Virginia constitution clearly says that redistricting will be done in 2011 and every 10 years thereafter. It does NOT authorize redistricting in other years.

Third, the Virginia constitution does not appear to contemplate re-redistricting in other years because it does not address when any such changes would take effect. The constitution defines when "the decennial reapportionment law" takes effect, what district boundaries are to exist until the next elections, and how vacancies would be filled, but it makes no such references regarding re-redistricting in other years.

Fourth, this issue was addressed by a Richmond Circuit Court judge just last year. The judge stated that the language in the constitution limits the authority of the General Assembly to redistrict to 2011 and every ten years thereafter, and does not allow subsequent re-redistricting, which is what this bill would do.

Fifth, the Colorado Supreme Court in late 2003 ruled that a redistricting law passed that year in that state was unconstitutional under a similar provision in the Colorado constitution. That ruling was made even though 1) it could be argued that the Colorado language is more ambiguous than the Virginia Constitution; and 2) it was not a legislative re-redistricting because the Colorado legislature had failed to pass a bill in 2001 or 2002. Because of that, the redistricting had been done by the Court. There was not a single dissent on the Colorado Supreme Court on the issue of whether the legislature could redo its redistricting. Two justices dissented, but their dissent was based on wanting to have a hearing on the issue of whether the legislature should be granted an exception to the prohibition on re-redistricting because the approved plan was developed by the judiciary rather than the legislature.

Sixth, this bill changes the racial and ethnic percentages and the partisan distribution in districts. The changes to the 47 districts may vary, but they nonetheless exist, and could draw tighter Voting Rights Act scrutiny where they are reducing the effective power of African-Americans and others in districts.

Three things are very different:

P.S. Also note that the Virginia constitution was amended in 2004 with substantive changes regarding redistricting, making it very clear when this can be done.

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Article II, Section 6 of the Virginia Constitution (0.00 / 0)
Members of the House of Representatives of the United States and members of the Senate and of the House of Delegates of the General Assembly shall be elected from electoral districts established by the General Assembly. Every electoral district shall be composed of contiguous and compact territory and shall be so constituted as to give, as nearly as is practicable, representation in proportion to the population of the district. The General Assembly shall reapportion the Commonwealth into electoral districts in accordance with this section in the year 2011 and every ten years thereafter.

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Yes, but depends on your definition of "ten" (0.00 / 0)

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Well ... (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps the VA Republicans are counting in dog years. ????

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Stopping This ... (0.00 / 0)
There's the possibility that the Justice Department could stop this based on the changes to the existing VRA districts. I need to look at the numbers, but I am highly skeptical of claims of creating a 6th minority-majority district without fundamentally altering the other minority-majority districts and violating the VRA.

Even if the Justice Department doesn't deny preclearance to the redistricting under VRA, there is still the state-based legal challenge to the redistricting under the Virginia Constitution, as you've outlined.

I hope in the future Democrats of any and all offices realize that this is why negotiating with the Republicans, as the Senate Democrats did in 2011, is worthless.

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This was my first thought (0.00 / 0)
It would truly be delicious if this causes the Justice department to have settle the matter at the federal level, and given the particulars of how this took place, when it took place, and why it's taking place, I'm sure the Justice Department wouldn't be amiss to playing some hardball politics for its own party.  There is the (albeit slim) possibility that Republicans might have found themselves bringing a knife in what turns out to be a gun fight. (All puns intended.)  

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Sadly (0.00 / 0)
It doesn't seem like the VRA is going to help, which is very surprising given how much attention was paid to the VRA during redistricting.

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This action taken while Democrats were distracted by the inauguration. In total disregard to our democracy, unjustified as in may well be defined. Virginia State Senate passed bill and hands it over to the House of Delegates.

I have serious concerns with the process in which the Republicans proceeded to push through this stealth maneuver. I also have reviewed the proposed new senate districts, which I may have to be of dissenting opinion in support of the move that simply makes sense for our area to be honest.

The new 27th Senatorial District would include all of Winchester City, Frederick, Clarke, Warren Counties and a small portion of Fauquier County. This is what many residents in our area, actually see as "our area." The common ties of these communities provides for an improved 27th State Senate District.

The addition of Warren County, while subtracting the small portion of Loudoun and a few precincts in Fauquier would have been a very supportive move from the start. It's the Winchester, Frederick, Clarke, Warren combination that defines our area "community."

The shameful move, not surprising in regards to this GOP senate majority simply is not of good conscious and provides for the foundation of a major battle. All this at a time when there are certainly more important and pressing issues for our state legislature to be addressing.

I may be in dissenting opinion due to the benefits of the move for the proposed 27th District, but this is not the route that represents the type of Democracy formed by the people, for the people.

The GOP has now launched a political maneuver compared to the equivalent of the attack on Pearl Harbor. The Democratic Party in response, rightfully has declared war and have quickly launched a response to derail this legislation.

The obvious glaring initial portion of the response....


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VA Sen. Dems: "In Political Power Play, Republicans Pursue Off-Year Redistricting" (0.00 / 0)
In Political Power Play, Republicans Pursue Off-Year Redistricting

Senate Democrats Vote Against Unconstitutional Republican Redistricting

RICHMOND, VA - Today, in a political power play specifically banned by the Constitution of Virginia, Republican Senators voted to strengthen their districts and weaken districts currently held by Democratic Senators.

Senator Richard L. Saslaw (D-Fairfax) said, "If this plan stands, there will be litigation, you can be sure of that. The Virginia Constitution says that the Virginia General Assembly shall redistrict in 2011 and every ten years thereafter. This will be struck down. The collateral damage from this thing will be immeasurable. This isn't the last we've heard of this."

Senator Donald McEachin (D-Henrico) added, "There have been no hearings on this plan. The public has no idea what these districts look like.  The good working spirit that this Senate has had will come to a very quiet, very sudden end if this bill is passed. To do this by surprise, to rush it through in a day, even though they control the Committee on Privileges and Elections - this is sneaking, underhanded, and beneath the dignity of the Senate."

Senator George L. Barker (D-Alexandria) said, "The Virginia Constitution says re-districting should take place 'in the year 2011 and every ten years thereafter.' It makes no provision for reapportionment in any year that doesn't end in 'one.' A Circuit Court judge recently ruled that the Virginia Constitution does not allow for re-redistricting, which is what this bill would do, in order "to preclude 'politically convenient' redistricting whenever one political party or the other might gain the upper hand." This type of action is not permissible under the Constitution."


The Virginia Constitution makes no provision for off-year redistricting. The Virginia Constitution requires that redistricting:

take place "in the year 2011 and every ten years thereafter"
take effect "for the November general election...that is held immediately prior to the expiration of the term being served in the year that the reapportionment law is required to be enacted."
[Constitution of Virginia, Article II, Section 6]

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Sen. Northam blasts VA GOP's "unethical, unconstitutional act of mid-decade gerrymandering" (0.00 / 0)
Dr. Ralph Northam Statement on Unconstitutional Gerrymandering

Richmond, VA- Today Dr. Ralph Northam, a Democratic candidate for Lieutenant Governor, issued the following statement on the Senate Republican Leadership's unconstitutional redistricting:

"On the day that should have been remembered exclusively for President Obama's historic speech on the importance of unity and for Martin Luther King's life dedicated to fighting for civil rights, the Senate Republican leadership have engaged in an unethical, unconstitutional act of mid-decade gerrymandering which pushes the politics of divisiveness to a new level. If the Republicans succeed in ramming this down the throats of Virginia's voters, it would mean a full out war on abortion rights, environmental protection and public education. They couldn't beat Tim Kaine or President Obama in 2012-so they changed the rules. This is why I will do everything within my power to fully support a law suit to overturn this unconstitutional power grab."

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Loudoun County Dem. Committee Calls Out Republican Senate for Redistricting Power Grab (0.00 / 0)
Republicans Attempt Power Grab With Surprise Redistricting

While the eyes of Virginia were fixed on the Second Inauguration of President Obama, Republicans in the Virginia Senate quietly, and without any prior notice or public review, introduced and passed an act (as an amendment to a House bill) to redistrict Senate seats, attempting to gerrymander the Commonwealth to ensure the election of more Republican Senators. The surprise bill passed the Senate 20-19, while one Democratic Senator was in Washington, attending the Inauguration.  

LCDC Chair Evan Macbeth reacted strongly to the move by the Republicans in the Virginia Senate: "This blatant power grab -- taken on a day of national unity and celebration -- flies in the face of Virginia's values of cooperation and restraint. It is the worst kind of brazen and crass gamesmanship. It demonstrates to all of Virginia the true colors of the Republicans in her Senate: Power at all costs, without regard for the public's will and without respect for due process."

The LCDC calls upon our elected Republican Senators -- Jill Vogel and Dick Black -- to explain their votes in favor of this bill.  Why was redistricting needed now, again, so soon after the 2011 agreement? Why was this vote taken without public notice or review? Why on a day when the public's attention was diverted elsewhere?

We also call on our representatives in the House of Delegates to reject this act, and to speak out  against this kind of politics.

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Redistricting maps (0.00 / 0)

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More maps (0.00 / 0)

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And here's Kenton Ngo's map (0.00 / 0)

Source: Kenton Ngo

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This is wrong (4.00 / 1)
Charlottesville is in.

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Updated (0.00 / 0)
I was not really looking forward to a long period of hand-punching these, but Legislative Services put the official shapefile up right after the first version was posted.

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Serious impact on a lot of districts (0.00 / 0)
This is a pure redistricting, not administrative changes.  It vastly changes a lot of districts, across the state.  My quick analysis has Republicans picking up at least 3 seats, maybe as many as 5, if this goes through.

Democrats cannot take this sitting down.  Everyone must do everything in their power to let Republicans know if they push this through, there will be serious repercussions.  A lot more than the ultimately impotent threats that were made last year when Republicans unilaterally reorganized the senate.  This is a nuclear option in my book, and Democrats must respond in kind, at all levels.

Let President Obama propose closing Norfolk Naval Station or Langley AFB.  Let the Dems in the state senate refuse to take the floor for votes, leaving Virginia for Maryland or North Carolina if threatened with arrest.  Every Democratic interest group in the state needs to file lawsuits at the state level on constitutional grounds, and at the Federal level on Voting Rights Act grounds.  Tie this thing up, and let every Republican know, from the Congressional level to the local level, that this will not be allowed to become law.

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lol (0.00 / 0)
Obama to close Norfolk Naval Station? Okay, buddy.  

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Why not? (0.00 / 0)
Budgets must be slashed, right?  At least 30% of the Atlantic Fleet is due to shift to the Pacific over the next 5 years or so, so at least one base on the East Coast is going to close.  Move the surface fleet to Mayport, FL and Newport, RI, and maybe even to Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Kittery.  Earle has space for support ships, especially with Ft. Monmouth now closed.  There's plenty of good housing and office buildings on Monmouth if Earle needs space.  Move the subs to Kings Bay.  

If you prefer, talk about BRACing Ft. Lee, or Damn Neck, or Oceana, or Ft. Eustis.  Of course, I'm sure that you, as a Republican, support the Republican's move in the Senate today, so you'll be happy to see Democrats roll over on this.  The point is, Democrats at all levels need to let Republicans know that if they insist on this plan, there will be extremely serious consequences.

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No, I think you're right. (0.00 / 0)
As a result of Virginia Senate Democrats facing 2-5 more difficult re-election campaigns in two years, the President of the United States should shut down one of the largest military installations in the country. If that doesn't get people's attention, he should just nuke Richmond.

I think this is a big deal, but Democrats also need to gain some massive perspective. Most people, even voters, don't particularly care that much about the ins-and-outs of the legislative process. It's all politics and backroom deals to them. Getting outraged is one thing; making your outrage an electorally viable issue is completely different.

And, frankly, the lunacy you're exhibiting here is exactly the type of response that will get people to not care.  

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You're right (0.00 / 0)
The average voter doesn't understand the issue - which is exactly what Republicans count on.  "Oh, it won't even occur to them until November 2015, when it's too late".  Of course that's the Republican plan.  

I advocate playing hardball with Republicans.  Many Democrats don't, which is another key part of the Republican plan.  If Democrats do start playing hardball, maybe Republicans will think twice before doing shit like like they did today.

So, how is it lunacy to threaten retaliation?  Should Democrats just accept it?  If it were Democrats doing it to Republicans, what would you advise your Republican legislators to do?  

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Dems should most definitely play hardball, that's a no brainer. (0.00 / 0)
The only question is HOW exactly.  

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Plotting to change Electoral College (4.00 / 2)
If the Republicans end up controlling the Virginia Senate because of this machination, then the way will be clear for them to pass legislation changing how Virginia's Electoral College votes in a presidential electionare distributed. They will change the present winner-take-all to distributing Electoral College votes by who wins in each Congressional District. If this system had been in place in 2008, Romney would have been given most of Virginia's electoral votes.

Pennsylvania and other Republican-dominated state legislatures are also investigating this change to the Electoral College. What we have here is a another fascist-type political maneuver, designed to put Republicans in control by brute force---- and keep them there, a fait accompli that the rest of us will have to "get used to."

Support the National Popular Vote Bill - 49% of the way to go into effect (0.00 / 0)
Obvious partisan machinations like these could be in preparation for changing to awarding Virginia's electoral votes by congressional district winner. These moves should add support for the National Popular Vote movement. If the party in control in each state is tempted every 2, 4, or 10 years (post-census) to consider rewriting election laws and redistrict with an eye to the likely politically beneficial effects for their party in the next presidential election, then the National Popular Vote system, in which all voters across the country are guaranteed to be politically relevant and treated equally, looks better and better.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections.

When the bill is enacted by states with a majority of the electoral votes- enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538), all the electoral votes from the enacting states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country.

The presidential election system that we have today was not designed, anticipated, or favored by the Founding Fathers but, instead, is the product of decades of evolutionary change precipitated by the emergence of political parties and enactment by 48 states of winner-take-all laws, not mentioned, much less endorsed, in the Constitution.

The bill uses the power given to each state by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution to change how they award their electoral votes for President. Historically, virtually all of the major changes in the method of electing the President, including ending the requirement that only men who owned substantial property could vote and 48 current state-by-state winner-take-all laws, have come about by state legislative action.

A survey of Virginia voters showed 74% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
By age, support for a national popular vote was 82% among 18-29 year olds, 75% among 30-45 year olds, 75% among 46-65 year olds, and 68% for those older than 65.
By gender, support was 82% among women and 65% among men.
By political affiliation, support was 79% for a national popular vote among liberal Democrats (representing 17% of respondents), 86% among moderate Democrats (representing 21% of respondents), 79% among conservative Democrats (representing 10% of respondents), 76% among liberal Republicans (representing 4% of respondents), 63% among moderate Republicans (representing 14% of respondents), and 54% among conservative Republicans (representing 17% of respondents), and 79% among Others.

In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided). Support for a national popular vote is strong among Republicans, Democrats, and Independent voters, as well as every demographic group in virtually every state surveyed in recent polls in recent closely divided Battleground states: CO - 68%, FL - 78%, IA 75%, MI - 73%, MO - 70%, NH - 69%, NV - 72%, NM- 76%, NC - 74%, OH - 70%, PA - 78%, VA - 74%, and WI - 71%; in Small states (3 to 5 electoral votes): AK - 70%, DC - 76%, DE - 75%, ID - 77%, ME - 77%, MT - 72%, NE 74%, NH - 69%, NV - 72%, NM - 76%, OK - 81%, RI - 74%, SD - 71%, UT - 70%, VT - 75%, WV - 81%, and WY - 69%; in Southern and Border states: AR - 80%, KY- 80%, MS - 77%, MO - 70%, NC - 74%, OK - 81%, SC - 71%, TN - 83%, VA - 74%, and WV - 81%; and in other states polled: AZ - 67%, CA - 70%, CT - 74%, MA - 73%, MN - 75%, NY - 79%, OR - 76%, and WA - 77%. Americans believe that the candidate who receives the most votes should win.

The bill has passed 31 state legislative chambers in 21 states with 243 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 9 jurisdictions with 132 electoral votes - 49% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

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Even our friends at Bearing Drift don't like it (0.00 / 0)
Good for them... (0.00 / 0)
...for showing a sense of fair play.  Repubs need to remember that they can win without cheating -- but dirty tricks undermine the whole system and spirit of democracy.

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Now getting some national attention (0.00 / 0)
Initial stories at AP,ThinkProgress, TPM andDaily Kos.

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Everybody is rightfully upset (4.00 / 1)
because Virginia Republicans "flipped the Byrd (so to speak)" to Virginia Democrats while making a travesty of the concepts of Commonwealth and democracy. This should be used as a Call to Action. Democrats need to work to find candidates to run for the House of Delegates, work to get out the vote in all of these districts, and win Delegate races. Winning 19 seats will require more than 19 candidates. As Woody Allen supposedly said, "80% of success is showing up!"

Remember the election in 2009 when Democrats failed to get out the vote and McDonnell won? Democrats can't let this happen again. (Yes, I know that Deeds' campaign sucked, but everybody also knows that things would be a lot different if Democrats had taken a long view and went to the polls to vote anyway!)

Remember ... (0.00 / 0)
that GOTV in 2009 was extremely difficult -- "he doesn't s--k as bad as the other guy" is a really hard motivator for convincing people to go to the polls.  Believe that we will see something far different this November but we should be realistic about the uphill climb we faced in getting people out in 2009.

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The Republicans think they're being clever . . . (4.00 / 2)
but they've just branded themselves as the party of gerrymandering and rigged elections.

The Richmonder

So? (0.00 / 0)
Does anyone here think the Republicans really give a rat's ass what we or any other Democrats think about this?

They won.  Period.  In their minds, it's over.

Poor Bill and Bob ... (0.00 / 0)
The action drew strong criticism from Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling (R), who decides tie votes in the Senate and would have been in a position to kill the measure if Republicans hadn't chosen to spring it on a day when one Democrat was absent. Sen. Henry L. Marsh III (D-Richmond) was attending President Obama's inauguration. (WashPost

So Bill and Bob are wringing their hands, 'not our fault' and 'we would have done things differently' but 'out of our control'.  

Definitely in their control to stop this... (0.00 / 0)

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Meanwhile, on Twitter (0.00 / 0)
@CreighDeeds: Everybody needs to take a deep breath. We're a long way from this redistricting

Remind me what happened last time we followed this guy's leadership...

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The LAST person anyone should listen to is this guy. (0.00 / 0)
It's not enough that he cost us massive losses in the House of Delegates in 2009 due to his inept, irresponsible campaign. It's not enough that he cost us the State Senate in 2011, due to his refusal to give up a couple C-ville districts he didn't even need to save an endangered Democratic colleague (Edd Houck). Then yesterday, after Senate Republicans pulled their coup and several Senate Dems stood up to protest (strongly!), Creigh got up there to ramble nonsensically - not to mention TOTALLY off message, off script, off everything - about a Confederate general's love of "lemons," "peaches" and "women." WTF?!? Of course, this is the same guy who told me in 2009 that mountaintop removal coal mining was no big deal, also that it was the same thing as surface mining and strip mining. Not the brightest bulb...

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Houck (0.00 / 0)
Please, don't blame Houck's defeat on Deeds. Maybe you've heard it from other folks, maybe you're just bitter, but from what I've been told Deeds never refused to give more Albemarle precincts to Houck. Houck and his campaign team messed up in assuming the votes they could keep in Spotsylvania and what they'd need to win. There's more than enough blame to spread around.

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I've heard it from a bunch of folks, all of whom are highly (0.00 / 0)

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Ok, first of all (0.00 / 0)
the thing you keep harping on about Jackson was a different issue and a speech planned long before this cluster. He represents VMI. It makes sense.

I'm holding my tongue on the rest of this.

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