250,000 vs. 87,000


    Courtesy of Charles Lemos at MyDD, here are two photos of the Lincoln Memorial and Reflecting Pool area of the National Mall. The first photo is from August 28, 1963, Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech, attended by approximately 250,000 people.

    Now, compare to August 28, 2010.  As Charles Lemos says, “In 1963, 0.0013228 percent of the US population was present to hear Dr. King’s I Have a Dream speech. At Beckamania just 0.000281 percent of the US population came to hear the ramblings of a certifiable pair of morons.” That would be 87,000 (overwhelmingly white) people to hear Glenn Beck, as estimated by independent/private outfit AirPhotosLive.com (the right wingnuts are throwing around “numbers” as high as 2 million, which of course is as delusional as their political philosophy). So, MLK had 3 times the people – and a much more diverse crowd, as well – attending his rally at a time when the U.S. population was just 189 million (compared to about 310 million in 2010).  Yesterday was a beautiful day, couldn’t ask for better weather in Washington, DC, so that’s certainly not why attendance was such a dud. Heck, the inaugural concert for Barack Obama’s inauguration, held on January 18, 2009, had 400,000 attendees in the dead of winter, with temperatures in the 20s.  So, maybe yesterday’s Beck/Palin attendance “fail” has more to do with the (deeply flawed) messengers and the (incoherent, angry) message they’re delivering?

    h/t: MyDD

    UPDATE: The Washington Post utterly fails again, describing Beck’s rally as “a sea of activists” and “an enormous crowd.”  Uh, sorry, but 87,000 people isn’t “a sea” or “enormous.” It’s a low-medium-sized rally on the Mall, much smaller than the Million Man March (400,000), the pro-immigration-reform “March for America” (200,000), the pro-choice “March for Women’s Lives” (500,000-1.1 million), an anti-war demonstration on January 18, 2003 (100,000-200,000), the March on Washington for Gay and Bi Equal Rights and Liberation (300,000), and many others. So, if Beck’s rally was “enormous,” what were these other rallies?  Super ginormous?  LOL

    UPDATE #2: Excellent article by Robert McCartney, explaining how the Beck and Palin fans’ “apocalyptic views hinder constructive political debate”.

    • blue bronc

      I am “watching” NBCWashington, Ch 4, Sunday 7:35am and the anchor just stated the National Park Service estimate was 300,000.

      I do not think I would rely on that number considering what all the pictures are showing.

    • KathyinBlacksburg

      The Beckians do not and cannot see that their side brought us to the brink economically. These zero info voters are so ignorant they are a threat because the will believe and do anything.  Proof is that they believe and follow the grand charlatan who fronted the event.  He is anything but a religious leader, but now he’s pretending he’s the new messiah.  God told him to do this, he claims.  This is delusional!  I will say it again.  His ranting about isms ought to be replaced by a look at the dictionary and in the mirror. He is what he warns his crowds of.

      PS when 300k rallied for equal rights for LGBT, just last fall,  more than Beck’s rally,  there was scant coverage.  But CBS falsely falsely claimed this was the biggest crowd since Obama was inaugurated. That is a blatant lie.    

    • Dan Sullivan

      Is there more of this somewhere?

      “Sarah Palin says the way to honor Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy is to honor those men and women in the military who protect the United States.”

      – reported in the Loonie Times

      I don’t get it at all and require more of her erudition to get a clearer picture. I really want to make sense of something she says.

    • KathyinBlacksburg

      and of his paranoid persecution complex.  http://www.alternet.org/media/

    • kindler

      I happened to be on a flight from the Midwest to Washington on Friday that included a number of people coming in to Beck’s rally.  They were mostly real backwoods country folks — 2-3 straw hats on the plane.  

      I also saw something I’ve never seen before, people hitchhiking on major roads in Fairfax County — a sign, I think, of folks not too used to being in the big city.

      Which is fine — nothing wrong with country folk.  But this group represents a very limited demographic: white, rural, certainly Christian, probably skewing older, and overwhelmingly conservative.  This ain’t no rainbow coalition.

    • bruce roemmelt

      Dr. King was about us, us, us.

      Beck/Palin is about me, me, me.


    • Brian

      It was nice and peaceful. I didn’t see any violence. And I was in the thick of it and it was 99% African-American. By contrast I found,through facebook and youtube,that there was a good old fashion mob violence revival against other citizens-who also happened to be white. I’m glad I went to the rally I did.

    • blue bronc

      This morning our local faux news channel updated the Whitestock 2010 crowd estimate. A Roll Call person stated the white people crowd was at least 300,000 to 500,000 thick. Maybe 230,000 to 430,000 of them were hiding in the river.