This is definitely worth watching. As David Boies says, there is “no basis whatsoever” to discriminating against GLBT citizens who want to marry. No basis, that is, except for appealing- as homophobic bigot Tony Perkins does here – to “people’s fear and prejudice” and citing studies that “don’t exist or don’t say what you say they do.”


![[UPDATED 1/29/26] Audio: Sen. Tim Kaine Talks to Blue Virginia About His “Five-Point Plan” to Fight Trump’s Orban-Like Assault on US Democracy; Civil Disobedience a la MLK Jr.; Trump’s Bogus “Energy Emergency”; the Crucial Importance of the 2025 VA Elections; etc.](https://bluevirginia.us/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/kaineinterview2-238x178.jpg)






![[UPDATED 1/29/26] Audio: Sen. Tim Kaine Talks to Blue Virginia About His “Five-Point Plan” to Fight Trump’s Orban-Like Assault on US Democracy; Civil Disobedience a la MLK Jr.; Trump’s Bogus “Energy Emergency”; the Crucial Importance of the 2025 VA Elections; etc.](https://bluevirginia.us/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/kaineinterview2-100x75.jpg)
