Beating Obama on the Debt Ceiling…and in 2012


    There are many proposals out there right now about what the GOP should demand in return for raising the debt ceiling. Most of the ideas I’ve seen are good stand-alone ideas, and warrant consideration.

    My specific suggestion below is predicated on two observations: First, any GOP response should tie back to a bigger narrative about the President misleading the public about the long-term consequences (intended and unintended) of his policies. Second, any final deal is likely to contain less (perhaps far less) than our original public negotiating position (see recent budget negotiations for proof).

    I think the GOP should demand that the Medicare cuts enacted by Obamacare be reversed, and that the Ryan plan for Medicare beneficiaries under 55 be adopted.

    The drumbeat our side should pound home publically to the American people, and privately with the Adminstration over the next several weeks is a DEMAND that the Medicare cuts this President signed into law last year need to be reversed: current beneficiaries don’t deserve to have Medicare, already on difficult financial ground, further gutted by the President’s desire to enact Obamacare. If the President wants to enact Obamacare, let him pay for it using someting other than Medicare.

    Of course, the GOP should offset the “cost” of reversing Obamacare’s Medicare cuts with reductions in discretionary spending. And when the President pushes back in private negotiations, because as we all know he NEEDS the Medicare cuts in order to fund Obamacare, the GOP can counter by asking for 1) Ryan’s proposed Medicare changes for those under 55, and 2) block-granting of Medicaid…and reductions in Medicaid’s outlays now that states will have flexibility.

    The benefits of this approach are myriad. First and foremost, Obama can’t win this debate. He doesn’t even want to acknowledge that he gutted Medicare to fund Obamacare. Further, he’ll have to defend WHY current seniors should bear the burden of his desire to enact Obamacare, when even before his cuts the program was not sustainable.

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      Minced Troll Pie is a family favorite. Begin by preparing your standard pie crust. Bake the pie crust until golden brown, and cool. While it cools, chop troll into chunks. Feed chunks through food processor, on “chop” setting. Once entire troll is processed, place in large pot on the stove, set to “simmer”. Stir in the troll’s shoes, unlaced. Simmer until thickened and add a dash of spite and two teaspoons of unaccountabilty. Ladle into pie crust. Refrigerate one hour. Serve with a dollop of immaturity.

      Source of recipe

    • aznew

      perhaps not.

      But regardless of the diarist’s intent, the diary is inappropriate, and IMHO should arguably be removed.

      The diarist is certainly entitled to his opinion, no mater how misguided it may be, but as it states in the “About” section for Blue Virginia:

      The purpose of Blue Virginia is to cover Virginia politics from a progressive and Democratic perspective. This is a group blog and a community blog.

      A diary in a community blog ought not be allowed to intentionally frustrate the very purpose of the blog, as this one does. The issue isn’t the content so much as it is, for all practical purposes, off point. Lucypert might just as well have written a diary about the mating habits of three-toed sloths, as far as I am concerned. Whatever value such a discussion might have, it is utterly irrelevant at this particular blog.

      That said, I would only emphasize that this is not a question of censorship, but an issue of any contributor to a community blog respecting the clearly stated guidelines and purposes of the blog which is kind enough to give him or her a forum.

      The only reason I am not assuming lucypert is a troll is because I don’t know his/her intent. Perhaps the diarist didn’t realize that Blue Virginia was not a Conservative/GOP/TeaParty blog, but rather a member of the reality-based community.

    • It’s time for the Teapublican Party to stop playing games with our nation’s credit. It’s time for the Teapublicans to stop risking a default and economic disaster that would harm hundreds of millions of people. And it’s time for the Teapublicans to back off their ideological goal of destroying the social safety net in this country, all while giving huge tax breaks to the richest and most powerful individuals and corporations. That is NOT what the vast majority of the American people want.

    • KathyinBlacksburg

      Paul Ryan is trying to extort a laundry list of “goodies” (to TeaPublicans only), including a 2/3 requirement for all tax increases.  As Thom Hartmann demonstrated today, the states which have done this have the worst budget deficits.  Surprise, surprise….