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Even the Virginia LCV, Which Has Given Millions to Pro-Pipeline Dems (TMac, Northam), Has Had Enough?

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Is the following email the classic, dictionary definition of “leading from behind” or what? The Virginia League of Conservation Voters (LCV), which has overwhelmingly NOT taken the lead against Dominion Energy (to the contrary, they supported the godawful “Dominion Bill” this session), the Atlantic Coast Pipeline (ACP), the Mountain Valley Pipeline (MVP), etc., weighs in now? After the Southern Environmental Law Center, working with the Sierra Club, Defenders of Wildlife and the Virginia Wilderness Committee, did all the hard work and last night announced a major victory over Dominion and the ACP? Better late than never, I guess. Also, if even the Virginia LCV has had enough when it comes to the pipelines, you know it must be really bad…

Deserving of huge credit, by the way, are all the environmental activists who have been working to stop the ACP and MVP; groups like the Chesapeake Climate Action Network (CCAN), the Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League (BREDL), Appalachians Against Pipelines, etc, etc. But the Virginia LCV? Other than giving millions of dollars to, and being major cheerleaders for, two of the Virginia politicians (Terry McAuliffe and Ralph Northam) who have pushed hardest for these pipelines and/or done far less than they could/should to stop them, what has the Virginia LCV done exactly prior to this email? Not really sure, but they certainly haven’t led “from the front,” as far as many (most?) of us environmental activists can see.

Now, having said all that, I do agree 100% with the Virginia LCV – and am willing to give credit where credit is due! – for calling on everyone to contact Gov. Northam and tell him to “hit ‘pause’ on the pipelines,” also that “Northam has said all along science would guide these projects – the science is saying they need to stop” and that “Virginia has the power to require stream-by-stream analysis across the route of these pipelines, which will bisect more than 1,000 waterways. ” I’d also note that it’s striking to see that even the Virginia LCV, which has been so supportive of McAuliffe, Northam, etc., call for Northam to take action to stop or at least slow the pipelines.



  • C Pruett

    I appreciate their apparent policy shift but I’m still not inclined to hit that ‘donate’ button until they give some evidence that they won’t just funnel their fundraising to the establishment Dem of choice in the next cycle, no matter what positions that person takes.

    • Oh, I absolutely would NOT donate to the Virginia LCV, as there are far far better environmental groups that could use support.

    • Travis Neal

      Virginia LCV has always been opposed to the pipelines, despite what the lazy research and false allegations Lowell would have you believe.

      • C Pruett

        Thanks, Travis, I’m quite familiar with VLCV & am not relying on Lowell for information but on my own conversations with their staff, attendance at their events, and observations of their activities. Any lip service they have paid to opposing the pipelines is to me outweighed by their decisions during last year’s primary and election cycle.

        • Travis Neal

          Glad you’re not relying on Lowell’s misinformation, and it’s fair for you to arrive at your own opinion. However, I would just clarify that Virginia LCV did not endorse in the primary last year, and I would say that in retrospect it’s a good thing (I’m assuming you’re suggesting they should’ve supported TP) because no amount of money or endorsement could have reversed that crushing defeat.

          • C Pruett

            Wow, what a principled stand. I was also told by an LCV field staff member during the primary that “Ralph is against the pipelines,” which I guess no one ever told Ralph.

          • C Pruett

            (FWIW, an endorsement would have been about VCLV’s credibility, not Tom’s).

          • notjohnsmosby

            Endorsing losers doesn’t exactly give you credibility.

            LCV is pretty savvy as to what they can and cannot accomplish, and where they should spend their resources. Like I’ve written many times, pipelines are not the only concerns out there.

          • C Pruett

            Amazingly, when a lot of people donate to advocacy organizations, they think that those organizations will act with integrity by taking a stand on issues whether or not they are ‘winnners.’ That’s the kind of credibility I am talking about. And as I already said in another comment, I have no issue with an advocacy group deciding the Republicans are a greater enemy and focusing resources on the general election. I do have a problem when their staff and supporters misrepresent their motivations for doing so.

          • notjohnsmosby

            Is helping to win an election a goal for advocacy groups?

          • C Pruett

            Is helping win an election mutually exclusive from having integrity?

          • notjohnsmosby

            It is if you’re only going to support extreme candidates who don’t have a path to victory. You quickly become irrelevant if all you deliver is defeat.

          • C Pruett

            Look, there’s a place for interest groups that are primarily interested in delivering election results but then you don’t get to be highhanded about how you’ve always been on the right side. Pick a lane and own it.

          • notjohnsmosby

            The right side of what? If you don’t get someone elected, you’re not in the game and it’s a complete waste of time and money. If you just groups to have temper tantrums about issues, they shouldn’t need to raise money to do that. Nothing useful comes of it.

          • C Pruett

            Glad it’s all a ‘game’ to you. Peace out.

          • notjohnsmosby

            Yes, the game of life.

      • VA LCV may very well have been opposed to the pipelines, but they haven’t done shit to oppose them as far as I can determine. All the other groups and individuals I listed in the article, plus many more grassroots folks, have done 99.9% of the work, while VA LCV has done…???

        • C Pruett

          I may have missed VLCV’s presence at the SWCB meetings or the Water is Life rally, or any mention of pipeline issues at their public events, prior to last month when Delegate Dawn Adams was the one to raise #StandwithRed. I’ve missed any reference in their communications to members and volunteers to actions that can be taken to oppose the pipelines. Crossing your fingers & saying ‘Gee I hope the guy we gave millions takes a stand AFTER we helped him get elected’ doesn’t so much count.’

        • C Pruett

          My bad, I do have an email from last summer (August 2, 14 days before their first $5,000.00 donation to Northam for Governor per VPAP) publicizing the SWCB hearings + a reply to my personal followup email that says, ” We are confident that we can work closely with Ralph Northam as governor to improve his stance on pipelines.”

          I guess this current campaign is what working closely looks like?

        • Travis Neal

          If you consider a 30-person protest in front of the Governor’s mansion as doing “shit,” then I suppose your judgement is even worse than I thought.

          • C Pruett

            Dude, what is your agenda here?

          • So now you’re attacking anti-pipeline, pro-environment activists? Niiiiice.

          • Travis Neal

            No, I am not attacking anyone. I just think someone has to call you on your B.S. from time to time, Lowell. You sitting behind a keyboard and attacking the credibility of an organization that has done more for the environment in Va than you could even fathom while sitting on the sidelines is not productive. You would think that would be obvious, but clearly it’s not even beneath you.

          • Yeah, coming from the same guy who last year at this time was busy attacking Tom Perriello and his supporters here in the BV comments section. Whatever, dude.

  • C Pruett

    (FWIW, I think it’s completely legit strategy for a green advocacy group to sit out a primary and save resources to defeat Republicans in a general election, it’s just that I was told by people with VLCV that they sat out because there was no significant difference between the candidates and then after the primary was told that they hoped to work with Northam to improve his stance on the pipelines. And now apparently they’ve been against the pipelines all along??)