Everyone in America should watch the CBS Sunday interview with long-time arch-conservative, former Rep. Liz Cheney, about the grave dangers posted by Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, and the radicalized Republican Party. A few “highlights” (they’re actually very disturbing LOWlights, but you get the point) from the interview, conducted at UVA, include:
Question: “Can they defend the constitution and also endorse Donald Trump?”
Cheney: “No.”
Question: “So they are breaking their oath by saying they would like him to be the next President?”
Cheney: “In my view, fundamentally, there is a choice: you can’t be for Donald Trump and for the constitution. You have to choose.”
See below the video for more.
Cheney: “Mike [Johnson] and I were good friends. But what I learned was that in fact he was operating in a way that was dangerous…because what Mike was doing was taking steps that he knew to be wrong, doing things that he knew to have no basis in fact or law or the constitution. Mike was willing time and again to ignore the rulings of the courts, to ignore what state and federal courts had done and said about the elections in these states in order to attempt to do Donald Trump’s bidding.”
Asked if “the Speaker of the House is a “collaborator to overthrow the last election,” Cheney responded, “absolutely.”
Asked “what happens if Mike Johnson is the Speaker on the 6th of January 2025,” Cheney responded, “He can’t be…We are facing a situation with respect to the 2024 election where it’s an existential crisis and we have to ensure that we don’t have a situation where an election that might be thrown into the House of Representatives is overseen by a Republican majority.”
Asked if she’s prefer a Democratic House majority, Cheney responded, “I believe very strongly in those principles and ideals that have defined the Republican Party of today has made a choice and they haven’t chosen the constitution. And so I do think it presents a threat if the Republicans are in the majority in January 2025.”
Asked why she thinks, if Donald Trump is reelected, it would mean “the end of the republic,” Cheney responds, “He’s told us what he will do. People who say, well, if he is elected it’s not that dangerous, because we have all of these checks and balances, don’t fully understand the extent to which the Republicans in Congress today have been co-opted. One of the things we see happening today is a sort of a sleepwalking into dictatorship in the United States.”
Asked if she thinks Donald Trump is a fascist, Cheney responds, “I think that he certainly is employing fascist techniques. I think that the tools that he is using are tools that we have seen used by authoritarians, fascists, tyrants around the world. The things that he has said and done in some ways are so outrageous that we have become numb to them. What I believe is the cause of our time is that we not become numb, that we understand the warning signs, that we understand the danger and that we ignore partisan politics to stop him.”
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