Earlier this afternoon, I had the chance to chat (at his campaign’s request) with VA11 Democratic candidate Dan Lee, who is one of eight Democratic candidates listed on VPAP (the others being Joshua Aisen, Candice Bennett, Leopoldo “Leo” Martinez, Amy Papanu; Stella Pekarsky, Amy Roma, Irene Shin and James Walkinshaw) running to succeed the late, great Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA11) in the US House. See below for a lightly edited transcript of the interview with Dan Lee. Also, keep in mind that the Democratic nomination (which will almost certainly determine the next Congressperson in the 9/9/25 special election, given that this is a deep-blue district) will be determined in a “firehouse primary” on June 28, just over two weeks from now. So stay tuned – and may the best candidate win!
Blue Virginia: “So the first thing is, there are a lot of candidates and some new faces, relatively new to Virginia politics, so for people who don’t know you, maybe just start by telling a little bit about yourself and why you’re running, maybe if you have any background in Fairfax or Virginia politics or VA11, any or all of those things would be interesting I think to people who don’t know you.”
Dan Lee: “I can get into all that. So thanks for the opportunity, I appreciate this. So my background is, I’m the son of working-class immigrants from South Korea. My dad was a small business owner and my mom was a nurse, and they landed here in Fairfax County back in the 70s. So I was born and raised here right here in Fairfax County, born in Fairfax Hospital, raised in Chantilly, and I attended Fairfax County Public Schools…graduated from Langley. Ultimately, I cleaned floors to help pay for college. I went to George Washington in DC and I received my master of public health and my MBA from Dartmouth. And my career over the last 20 years has been defined by public service. I’ve served in the White House, I’ve worked for a governor, I was at the World Bank for a number of years, and I’ve worked with Republicans to deliver actual solutions for the public. I can get into more details there, but frankly the most proud title I think I have is that I’m a caregiver to my mom; she lives with Parkinson’s disease today, and ironically when I said she was a nurse, she didn’t actually have health insurance most of her adult life until she turned 65 and qualified. That day I won’t forget as her eldest son, you know that was a huge relief. And today she relies on Medicaid to age with dignity at home. And the fact that Trump is about to rip that away from people like my mom, that I just cannot let that happen…
And the reason why to your question of why I’m even in this race, it’s because we sorely need a reset in the direction of our country, and I also believe the direction of our Democratic Party, because I’m sure I don’t have to tell you this, we keep doing the same things over and over and over and we keep hoping for a different result, but we keep getting the same outcomes, and we’re not going to bring the nation back from this brink that we’re at now and deliver for the future that we all deserve. So we’ve got to fight against the Trump agenda. But we as Democrats really need to lead by showing Americans what we should be fighting for. And if there’s nothing else that people remember, why I’m in this race is because I believe in a country that provides guaranteed health care for all Americans through Medicare for All. I believe that we should provide a livable wage, and I believe that we should provide affordable dependent care for kids and seniors. And you know, these are not just like nice things to have, these are not optional, these are essential things for our right to exist.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, these are must-haves. I mean you have to have healthcare; we all get sick, we all are human. And so yeah, it’s not like a fringe benefit or frill. They’re threatening to take away Medicaid. So healthcare sounds like it’s the gist, it’s the focus maybe of your campaign, is that a fair point?”
Dan Lee: “I mean, yeah I’ve been in healthcare most of my life, it’s been a common thread and I’m also a healthcare entrepreneur, I’ve started a couple companies to provide healthcare and affordable access. So yeah, I’m a healthcare guy for sure.”
Blue Virginia: “Are there any other issues besides health care that you would say are also high on your list of priorities if you got into Congress that you would be focused on? Like what committees you might want to be on or anything like that?”
Dan Lee: “Absolutely. I mean, for me being the healthcare guy, the House Commerce Committee is something I would be really interested in joining just because of its central role in determining healthcare policy. We need to pass Medicare for All. And honestly speaking, I think we’re almost there as a nation politically and societally. You might remember 15 years ago when the ACA was passed, the public option was part of that package, but it got kicked out because of special interests like United Healthcare…and saying we don’t want that.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, I advocated for the public option very strongly, I was actually working on that issue. And I remember talking to Mark Warner and he said couldn’t support it because we needed to be bipartisan and we needed to have Republican buy-in, he had a bunch of reasons…”
Dan Lee: “The thing, this is not rocket science, like this is not something that there’s an impenetrable impediment that prevents a public option from being reality. It’s simply political will and political courage. And I think those two things are right now, we’re in a moment where those things are possible. So 100% Medicare for All; we’re almost there and I want to make sure we get over the line.”
Blue Virginia: “So Medicare for all I guess is considered relatively progressive by a lot of people. Would you say you’re a progressive in general, or just this specific issue? Because obviously on healthcare, Medicare for All, I mean I think it’s normal for western democracies or whatever, but I guess on this country’s political spectrum is considered kind of to the left a little bit? But anyway, what do you think about that?”
Dan Lee: “I think you raise an interesting point. It is funny how some things get classified as progressive and some things don’t…To your point…we are the only western nation that does not provide some guaranteed care to all. And by the way, we pay twice as much per capita per person for healthcare than anyone else in the world.”
Blue Virginia: “And we get worse results.”
Dan Lee: “Right, and we get worse results. A study that was done by Brown University a couple months ago, I’m not sure if you saw it, that basically tracked people in the US and tracked people in northern Europe, and after accounting for societal things and income, wages and all that, they found that the richest Americans lived shorter lives than the poorest northern Europeans.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, that’s very telling.”
Dan Lee: “Yes, it’s very telling. And part of the reason why is because they have a healthcare system that provides basic healthcare. It’s not that hard.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, shouldn’t be, but apparently it has been for decades. But more broadly, on the ideological spectrum, I guess Medicare for All is towards the left of our ideological spectrum. What about in general? How would you classify yourself and do you have any Congresspeople that you would say are like a model or someone that you look up to or that you would see yourself similar to? I’m just trying to get a feel for for you and your candidacy.”
Dan Lee: “Yeah, so the models I look towards, it’s not just one individual but I would say certainly AOC, certainly Ro Khanna, Pramila Jayapal, Marilyn Strickland; these are individuals I not only look up to and are inspired by, I think these are individuals who are actually leading in the Congress today and we need more individuals like them.”
Blue Virginia: “I mean, the people you listed there, I would say they’re on different parts of the ideological spectrum, people usually see AOC as more to the left, I would say Khanna maybe more to the conservative or middle/’moderate’ Democrat. So you sound like you’re maybe eclectic. I mean, we can get into issues, maybe we’ll see it when I ask you about specific issues. But I mean, you don’t want to put a label, like some people say they’re pragmatic progressive…could be just a buzz phrase, but I kind of consider myself that. Or what Mark Warner used to call himself, a ‘radical centrist’. But I’m wondering if you have anything like that for yourself.”
Dan Lee: “No, it’s funny you said that; I actually when I when I first started my campaign, I shared with folks that I considered myself a progressive pragmatist. And that’s for me, that’s not just a label, it’s really how I was raised. I mean, my story is a reflection of where and how I grew up, working-class immigrants. You know I have a lifelong connection to this area and it’s just the experiences that I saw with my parents growing up and what they struggled with informs my worldview today. And I’ll also tell you what I know, it’s another health care example, but my dad died fairly early and he died because he was rationing his own medications.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, I read that on your website.”
Dan Lee: “I vividly remember when he was putting pills in his pill box, he would skip some days. And I asked him, ‘Why are you skipping these days?’ He’s like, ‘I don’t have that many pills.'”
Blue Virginia: “That’s terrible.”
Dan Lee: “So that is not something that people in this country should face. And we face it today because of PBMs that have gotten out of control and way too powerful. And we need to stop these special interests from really determining our lives and livelihoods. And that will be a central part of why, well not only a central part of why I’m running, but also what I’ll be doing in Congress to make sure that all Americans have access to some basic things that we all deserve. Because it’s again, back to our right to exist.”
Blue Virginia: “I guess I’ve asked several candidates about this, the reason for this election is that Congressman Connolly passed away, unfortunately. I thought he was an excellent congressman myself…But I’m just curious what you thought about Gerry Connolly, his leadership, his style, his substance, and would you see yourself somewhat like that or very different from that or whatever?”
Dan Lee: “I mean, I think the parallels between Gerry and myself, he was an Irish American, I’m obviously not an Irish American…Gerry in his district as congressman did a phenomenal job, he fought for this district, he fought for people and he was a progressive’s progressive. And I think that legacy will live on in people. This race is not about to replace Gerry Connolly; this race is to simply succeed him and hopefully build on his giant shoes.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, that’s a good way to put it – no one will replace Gerry Connolly. I’ve known him for 20 years…not super well but…known about him and talked to him for 20 years. And no, he’s a one-of-a-kind personality and all. So anyway, you mentioned Medicare for All; I don’t know if that’s the mainstream of the Democratic Party in Congress…I think most rank-and-file, grassroots Democrats probably support it. Any other issues that jump out at you where you feel like you’re different than the Democratic mainstream or party, whether it’s on domestic policy – could be anything (abortion, immigration any issue, LGBTQ equality) or on foreign policy. There’s a lot of issues going on, Iran going on right now. We could talk about that, Israel-Gaza, Russia-Ukraine, tariffs, a million things, or Asia policy for that matter if you’re interested in that, I mean South Korea is fascinating, North Korea. But anyway, any issues where you feel like you maybe would be different from a lot of Democrats?”
Dan Lee: “I think one thing is a liveable wage. So the notion that you know people are still fighting for $15 an hour, and that’s something that we should have done 15 years ago. We need to fight for a minimum of $25 an hour…federally; the minimum wage has not kept up with inflation in most parts of the country, it’s still still $7.25. That’s ridiculous. When I was in high school, I was working at the CVS in Great Falls as a cashier, I made like around $6 an hour, this was back in the late 90s…I mean, Virginia we’ve done more, so Virginia is on track to hit $15 an hour. But you know, according to MIT, to live in Fairfax County, the livable wage for one individual as a single person it’s $32 an hour. If you make anything less than that, you’re going to struggle. So we do need to do something about that. And I think that’s a topic that has not gotten much attention. And frankly, again, it’s a reason why I think we lost so badly in November, because Democrats were not focusing on kitchen-table issues. Democrats care, and I think most Democratic voters care, about big values, but when it comes to paying your rent, paying for your groceries, paying for child care and elder care, you’ve got to address those things first. And I think that’s what my campaign is about. And if for nothing else, I will use this platform to keep saying that over and over and over.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah. Now on foreign policy, Iran’s big in the news right now because of what’s going on over there. I saw different statements this morning from Tim Kaine and Mark Warner, their statements were significantly different I would say on this subject. Don Beyer put out a statement that was closer to Kaine, I would say, than Warner. But anyway, I’m kind of curious your thoughts on, if you were in Congress right now, what would you be saying or doing about Iran? What would you be advocating for the US do vis-a-vis Israel and Iran?”
Dan Lee: “So I spent four years at the World Bank, so international relations is something that I know very well. What I can say about that is with the Iran situation right now, between them and Israel, we are on a path to World War III right now. And that has got to stop. I know that the US has come out saying that they had no involvement in Israel’s attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities, but the US needs to step in and prevent World War III from happening. And if don’t do anything as the most powerful nation in the world, we still let Israel do its thing, I am very worried for not just the future, I’m very worried for what’s going to happen in months ahead.”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, so like what should we do exactly? I mean, you say step in. Should we intervene? I’m not sure even in which direction you’re saying, like should we help Israel attack Iran, or are you saying we should restrain Israel from attacking Iran?”
Dan Lee: “We should exhaust every diplomatic option to prevent hopefully further violence. Because what we saw with these attacks from Israel to Iran, this can escalate very quickly. So I do hope that our leaders in DC and the leaders in Israel will have cooler heads and hopefully come to a diplomatic solution…because once this gets out of control, it’s going to be very hard to contain.”
Blue Virginia: “How much of this was the result of Trump pulling us out of the Iran nuclear deal that the Obama administration negotiated? My personal view is a lot of it has to do with the fact that Trump pulled us out of that deal, that had Iran’s nuclear program mostly in check. And after Trump pulled us out of that deal with no replacement, then Iran was not checked anymore and I think this almost became inevitable. I’m kind of curious what you think about that.”
Dan Lee: “Yeah, I think you hit an interesting point. The insanity and frankly the chaos of the Trump administration, where there’s really no logic to what they’re doing, everything from the Iran nuclear deal to tariffs to everything else there, it makes no sense. So this chaos is not just on the international stage, this chaos is on the domestic level as well. We’re also seeing in California too, in the other cities…”
Blue Virginia: “Yeah, I was going to get to that. Any thoughts on what happened with Senator Padilla yesterday? And then related to that, of course, what’s going on in L.A. and with the Trump crackdown or whatever you want to call it, assault on L.A., crackdown not just going after ‘criminal illegal aliens’, they’re not prioritizing that anymore, they are going after hardworking people now right, people who’ve lived in this country in some cases for many many many years, working in a kitchen, working in a meat packing plant, whatever…So Padilla ties in with the broader immigration question that’s huge in the news right now…”
Dan Lee: “When I saw Padilla standing up and doing that, when he was taken down by the security officials, I was so proud for what he did to stand up. He’s a US senator and the fact that he stood up and was then tackled, of course you know he shouldn’t have been, he should not have been tackled to the ground and arrested. That is simply unacceptable. But it made me so proud as an American, as a Democrat, to see one of our own standing up to this nonsense. We need more of our elected leaders putting their necks on the line, not just writing strongly worded press statements, not just speaking at a rally and then going home. We need our elected officials to put their necks on the line and stop this chaos. And if it takes interrupting a press conference and getting arrested and going to jail, that’s that’s the very minimum you should be doing.”
Blue Virginia: “And what do you think about the policy in general with the Trump administration on immigration? Would you have supported a comprehensive immigration deal like that was passed under a Democratic Congress, but then was killed by Republicans who wouldn’t take it up in the House?”
Dan Lee: “That’s what keeps happening – immigration reform should have happened back in the Bush administration, that’s where it died. And the fact that we don’t have a sane immigration policy today is a moral failing, but it’s also political failing. ‘ll tell you what, my parents were immigrants, they came here legally, they got naturalized, they stood in line, they did it the hard way. But they did it. My wife is also an immigrant too. In fact, she came here during college and now she’s a lawyer, she has a wonderful job, she contributes wonderfully to our judicial system. And she also had to leave the country for about nine months during COVID, because her visa had to be done the correct way. And so she worked in the firm’s Hong Kong office for nine months and then when she came back, we got married. But she did it the right way. We need immigration reform that treats people like my wife fairly, but also treats people like coming here as refugees and asylum seekers. But we also have to have a very sane immigration policy where we can’t have people just streaming across the Mexican border, I don’t think anyone would allow that or find that acceptable. Like for example, I was standing in a Starbucks line last week, and it was maybe 10 people deep. Some guy just walked right up and cut all of us in line, and he was like meeting his friend apparently. At the front of the line, everyone looked at that guy and said that’s not right. I think we can all agree that there are norms, there are laws that we have to follow, but we also have to make sure that the immigration reform as a sensible policy needs to be done and completed. And right now I don’t see leadership on either side of the aisle that’ll get that done, unfortunately.”
Blue Virginia: “It’s very frustrating. Unfortunately it’s leading to a lot of problems. So I guess we just have a couple minutes left. So on the campaign itself, first of all on the nomination process if you have any thoughts on that, maybe. And also how you’re going to get your message out and what you’re going to be doing, there’s only a couple weeks…very quick nomination process. So how are you going to get your message out? What do you think about the nomination process? I guess there’s going to be one debate. Anyway, anything else on the actual campaign?”
Dan Lee: “Yeah, well, the nomination process set by the local 11th CD is what it is; it’s undemocratic, it’s unAmerican. But you know that’s the process that’s been set, we all have to follow that process…”
Blue Virginia: “Which part is ‘undemocratic’ or ‘unAmerican’, what you don’t like about it, I’m just curious?”
Dan Lee: “To have a race set in three weeks when we launched our campaign last Tuesday, the day after the 11th CD said that the primary would be on June 28th, three weeks away..We’re not two weeks left. That is not enough time to study for a test, let alone run a Democratic election for a critical congressional seat.”
Blue Virginia: “Right, well Youngkin set the date as September 9th for the special election, so that’s on Youngkin, right? And then you go back, it’s in statute, I think it’s 60…”
Dan Lee: “Yeah, there can’t be election day within 55 days of a regular scheduled election.”
Blue Virginia: “So it could have been after July 4th, that would have been the latest I think…something like mid July. So I agree it’s not ideal, you want to have more time, but I think much of that’s Youngkin.”
Dan Lee: “But with the two weeks now we have left, we’re going to run this as a sprint, we’re gonna all full speed, all heart. This isn’t just a campaign for us, it’s a grassroots movement powered by our neighbors and our community. We have a fantastic team here, we’re going to be knocking on doors, going to all the meetups obviously, attending local community events and just getting our message out. I think it was Don Beyer that said once that for a politician, there’s only just two rules: one is it’s your message, and two it’s message delivery. And you just repeat one and two over and over.”
Blue Virginia: “Haha, right. So do you have any endorsements that we should know about or any, who are your main supporters? Or anything else you want to talk about?”
Dan Lee: “Yeah, we’re being supported by my community, the AAPI community is certainly one of them. I think there’s a large, broad section of the Democrats in this area who are just thirsty for some change, they don’t want another elected politician to try to represent them, they want someone who’s done things and someone who can actually do things and use the power of the seat to actually bring change that people want. And that’s exactly what I’m campaigning for and that’s exactly what I’ll do in Congress.”
Blue Virginia: “Alright, great, well I think we’re just about out of time. But if you have anything else you want to mention or we could just wrap it up.”
Dan Lee: “No, other than we have our campaign launch event tomorrow, Saturday, at 1 p.m in Chantilly. People can go to my website, Dan Lee for Virginia, to find out more. And I would love to see people there.”
Blue Virginia: “Sounds great. Well thanks for doing this, appreciate it, and I’ll definitely look forward to seeing you out there.”
Dan Lee: “Thanks.”